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		<title>Stairway To Heaven</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Rives</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img width="300" height="200" align="right" title="Tower" alt="Tower" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/babel.jpg" />In 1971, Led Zeppelin released a song titled Stairway to Heaven possibly getting the name from the ladder Jacob saw leading to heaven in Genesis 28:12.  However, the original stairway to heaven occurs in Genesis 11:1-9 and is widely known as the Tower of Babel.</p>
<p>According to Genesis, the people of the ancient times decided to ignore God's command to "fill the earth and subdue it" but instead they all gathered in the land of Shinar, also known as Mesopotamia.  They decided to make a tower to heaven to make a name for themselves and God disagreed.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img title="Tower" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/babel.jpg" alt="Tower" width="300" height="200" align="right" />In 1971, Led Zeppelin released a song titled Stairway to Heaven possibly getting the name from the ladder Jacob saw leading to heaven in <cite class="bibleref" title="Genesis 28:12" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref1760352821', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01028012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he dreamed, and behold, there was a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven. And behold, the angels of God were ascending and descending on it!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Genesis 28:12', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Genesis+28%3A12');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Genesis+28%3A12" >Genesis 28:12</a>.  However, the original stairway to heaven occurs in <cite class="bibleref" title="Genesis 11:1-9" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2025241147', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011001-1&quot;&gt;11:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now the whole earth had one language and the same words. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And as people migrated from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they said to one another, &amp;#8220;Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly.&amp;#8221; And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then they said, &amp;#8220;Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of man had built. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; said, &amp;#8220;Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language, and this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another&amp;#8217;s speech.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; dispersed them from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v01011009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; confused the language of all the earth. And from there the &lt;span class=&quot;small-caps&quot;&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; dispersed them over the face of all the earth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Genesis 11:1-9', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Genesis+11%3A1-9');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Genesis+11%3A1-9" >Genesis 11:1-9</a> and is widely known as the Tower of Babel.</p>
<p>According to Genesis, the people of the ancient times decided to ignore God&#8217;s command to &#8220;fill the earth and subdue it&#8221; but instead they all gathered in the land of Shinar, also known as Mesopotamia.  They decided to make a tower to heaven to make a name for themselves and God disagreed.</p>
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<p>The tower of Babel is likely one of the largest of many towers called ziggurats, built as religious temples to gods.  In the ancient ruins of Babylon, outside of Baghdad, archaeologists have uncovered multiples sites which probably were the base of large structures such as ziggurats.  One of these sites is a square, 300 feet on each side.</p>
<p>There are many other theories that place the tower in Turkey, but the best description of a ziggurat comes from Greek historian Herodotus, who visited Babylon and the tower in 440 BC.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the middle of the precinct there was a tower of solid masonry, a furlong in length and breadth, upon which was raised a second tower, and on that a third, and so on up to eight. The ascent to the top is on the outside, by a path which winds round all the towers. When one is about half-way up, one finds a resting-place and seats, where persons are wont to sit some time on their way to the summit. On the topmost tower there is a spacious temple, and inside the temple stands a couch of unusual size, richly adorned, with a golden table by its side.</p></blockquote>
<p><img title="Tower of Babel" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/tower-of-babel.jpg" alt="Tower of Babel" align="left" />The tower Herodotus referred to was likely a restoration of the original tower of Babel.  The fact that Herodotus was so amazed by its size is important because the tower had probably been deteriorating since the city was taken over by Persian King Xerxes in 478 BC.</p>
<p>Besides the disobeying of his command to fill the earth, God may have been angry at the construction of the tower for other reasons as well.  The ziggurats usually had a stairway wrapping around the outside and it was built high enough so you could ascend to the heavens where the gods resided.  Another possible reason for his anger is that the ziggurats were built with elaborate drainage systems to avoid erosion.  Many think that since they were built to withstand water, the people thought they could use the tower to avoid being destroyed by God like their grandfathers were in the flood.</p>
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<p>The height of the tower seems to be the most desired trivia piece, so I would be cruel to leave you in ignorance.  One source claims it was 8,150 feet high, which seems impossible since it would be four times larger than the largest structures today.  The other puts the tower at about 694.5 feet making it larger than the Great Pyramid at Giza, but about 300 feet short of the Eiffel Tower.</p>
<p>The theories about the location and specifics of the tower of Babel are based on slight references to large towers from multiple ancient documents.  The true nature of the tower of Babel may have to remain from educated guesses or maybe it can be found by playing Stairway to Heaven backwards&#8230;<br />
References:</p>
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<li><a href="http://studylight.org/desk/?l=en&amp;query=Genesis+11%3A1+-+9&amp;section=0&amp;translation=esv&amp;oq=Genesis%252011%3A1-9&amp;new=1&amp;nb=ge&amp;ng=11&amp;ncc=11" target="_blank">Genesis 11:1-9</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.unmuseum.org/babel.htm" target="_blank">The UnMuseum</a></li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.soniclight.com/constable/notes/pdf/genesis.pdf" target="_blank">Soniclight - Genesis notes (PDF)</a></li>
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		<title>Look Lord, My Sermon Collection!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 12:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Rives</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[<img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-437 alignleft" style="float: left;" title="Cheater?" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cheating-300x226.jpg" alt="" width="250" height="188" />"Duplication for resale prohibited.  Duplication for ministry purposes encouraged."  That is the statement on the bottom of a CD of sermons I have from <a href="http://dbcmedia.org" target="_blank">Denton Bible Church</a>.  Using other material in churches is nothing new.  Bible studies have been passed around and even sold for a while now.  When I was working in youth ministry, our youth pastor purchased a curriculum that we used as a guide for what to teach in small groups and on Sundays.

I wonder though if there is a limit for copying material.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-437 alignleft" style="float: left;" title="Cheater?" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cheating-300x226.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="226" />&#8220;Duplication for resale prohibited.  Duplication for ministry purposes encouraged.&#8221;  That is the statement on the bottom of a CD of sermons I have from <a href="http://dbcmedia.org" target="_blank">Denton Bible Church</a>.  Using other material in churches is nothing new.  Bible studies have been passed around and even sold for a while now.  When I was working in youth ministry, our youth pastor purchased a curriculum that we used as a guide for what to teach in small groups and on Sundays.</p>
<p>I wonder though if there is a limit for copying material.  Have you ever sat in a sermon and thought, &#8220;I&#8217;ve heard that illustration before.&#8221;  Anytime a pastor starts out with a story about some young kid in class, I can guess what&#8217;s coming. I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve heard variants of John Piper&#8217;s &#8220;<a title="Great Sermon" href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/ConferenceMessages/ByDate/1483_Boasting_Only_in_the_Cross/" target="_blank">look Lord my shell collection</a>.&#8221;  I won&#8217;t lie and say I&#8217;ve never borrowed material.  I even changed details, like many pastors, in order to make it personal.  Pastors do that because a personal anecdote has more impact.</p>
<p>Where is the line (if there is one)?  What about when every small town church in America was doing 40 days of Purpose?  What if a pastor purchased the transcript of a sermon online, then repeated it with the same voice inflection and dramatic pauses at those crucial moments?  There are quite a <a href="http://sermoncentral.com/" target="_blank">few</a> <a href="http://www.creativepastors.com/" target="_blank">sites</a> where you can do this and there are quite a few pastors who have been using this method.  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article_email/article_print/SB116355983749723495-lMyQjAxMDE2NjEzNTUxNTU5Wj.html" target="_blank">Some pastors have even lost their jobs</a> when their congregation found out.</p>
<p>Are these pastors just utilizing those who have been given the gift of expository preaching and creative imagery?  (<cite class="bibleref" title="1 Corinthians 12:12-30" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2012711559', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body&amp;#8212;Jews or Greeks, slaves or free&amp;#8212;and all were made to drink of one Spirit.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For the body does not consist of one member but of many. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If the foot should say, &amp;#8220;Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,&amp;#8221; that would not make it any less a part of the body. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if the ear should say, &amp;#8220;Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,&amp;#8221; that would not make it any less a part of the body. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If all were a single member, where would the body be? &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As it is, there are many parts, yet one body.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The eye cannot say to the hand, &amp;#8220;I have no need of you,&amp;#8221; nor again the head to the feet, &amp;#8220;I have no need of you.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012028-1&quot;&gt;28&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012029-1&quot;&gt;29&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46012030-1&quot;&gt;30&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '1 Corinthians 12:12-30', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+12%3A12-30');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+12%3A12-30" >1 Corinthians 12:12-30</a>)  Or does the pastor have a responsibility to his congregation, who pays him, to meditate and interpret the Scriptures specifically for them?  (<cite class="bibleref" title="Acts 6:2-4, 1" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2749592618', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v44006002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twelve summoned the full number of the disciples and said, &amp;#8220;It is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v44006003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Therefore, brothers, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we will appoint to this duty. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v44006004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v44006001-2&quot;&gt;6:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now in these days when the disciples were increasing in number, a complaint by the Hellenists arose against the Hebrews because their widows were being neglected in the daily distribution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Acts 6:2-4, 1', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+6%3A2-4%2C+1');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Acts+6%3A2-4%2C+1" >Acts 6:2-4, 1</a> <cite class="bibleref" title="Peter 5:1-2" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2885182373', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v60005001-1&quot;&gt;5:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as a partaker in the glory that is going to be revealed: &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v60005002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Peter 5:1-2', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Peter+5%3A1-2');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Peter+5%3A1-2" >Peter 5:1-2</a>)  There seems to be a celebrity status given recently to head pastors of large churches.  Maybe if we didn&#8217;t seek out celebrity preachers in a church, then others wouldn&#8217;t feel so much pressure to entertain.  (<cite class="bibleref" title="1 Timothy 5:17-18" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2402447083', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v54005017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v54005018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For the Scripture says, &amp;#8220;You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,&amp;#8221; and, &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;The laborer deserves his wages.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '1 Timothy 5:17-18', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Timothy+5%3A17-18');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Timothy+5%3A17-18" >1 Timothy 5:17-18</a>)</p>
<p>Another quick worst case scenario thought&#8230;what if only a few &#8220;gifted&#8221; pastors are writing the content, then pastors around the world are preaching it word for word.  How much power does that put in the hands of the writers?  They are no longer writing for 10 thousand but 10 million or more.</p>
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		<title>Why You Should Tithe In July</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Rives</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[<img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-444 alignleft" style="float: left;" title="Annual Church Revenue Cycle" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/contributions1-287x300.jpg" alt="" width="191" height="200" />Consider this graph which reflects a typical giving and expense cycle for a church.  How would you like to be in charge of planning that budget?  I <a href="http://www.generousgiving.org/print.asp?p_sec=4&#38;p_page=660&#38;url=/page.asp?sec=4&#38;page=660" target="_blank">read a stat</a> that says most churches plan their budget based on each member giving between 2-3% of their income to the church.  And if you've ever been involved with church budgeting you have heard the saying "20% of the church gives 80% of the money."  Though many would say 10% gives 90% is more accurate.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-444 alignleft" style="float: left;" title="Annual Church Revenue Cycle" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/contributions1-287x300.jpg" alt="" width="287" height="300" />Consider this graph which reflects a typical giving and expense cycle for a church.  How would you like to be in charge of planning that budget?  I <a href="http://www.generousgiving.org/print.asp?p_sec=4&amp;p_page=660&amp;url=/page.asp?sec=4&amp;page=660" target="_blank">read a stat</a> that says most churches plan their budget based on each member giving between 2-3% of their income to the church.  And if you&#8217;ve ever been involved with church budgeting you have heard the saying &#8220;20% of the church gives 80% of the money.&#8221;  Though many would say 10% gives 90% is more accurate.</p>
<p>Every church I have been a part of has spent the most on salaries for their employees, usually about 50% of the total budget.  A <a href="http://www.leadnet.org/downloads/megasummaryreportFINAL.pdf" target="_blank">survey of mega churches</a> showed in 2005 there were 20 full-time leadership staff, which is up from 13 in 2000.  A growing staff seems to be the focus of many landlocked churches that I&#8217;ve seen.  If you can&#8217;t enhance your facilities, then go for a lower staff to member ratio. In my experience, this is a much more effective strategy than just building a bigger church that&#8217;ll fit more people.  But a building can usually be built a lot faster than deep, meaningful relationships.</p>
<p>Of the three churches I have gone to recently, the missions budget was 6%, 10% and 30% of the total budget.  <img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-445 alignright" style="float: right;" title="Annual Baptism Cycle" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/baptisms1.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" />The most recent survey shows that the average missions budget in American churches is 5%.  Of course many churches consider their entire budget to be missional.  This is a great mindset to have, but I prefer a church that recognizes the &#8220;all nations&#8221; part in <cite class="bibleref" title="Matthew 28:19" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2328132589', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40028019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Matthew 28:19', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matthew+28%3A19');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matthew+28%3A19" >Matthew 28:19</a> and gives away a lot of money instead of adding luxuries for their members.</p>
<p>Another graph to consider is this one relating to the average number of baptisms over a year. Maybe all those people who were baptized in August decide to start tithing for a few month, until the spiritual high passes in January.   Or maybe people are just conservative budgeters and underestimated their giving ability until later in the year.  While those are nice thoughts, it more than likely people just trying to get in a tax deduction for that year.  As for the baptism trends, its pretty obvious&#8230;who wants to get dunked in water in the winter.</p>
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		<title>Crystal Gospel&#8230;like Crystal Pepsi</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Rives</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignleft alignnone size-medium wp-image-441" style="float: left;" title="Crystal Pepsi" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/crystalpepsi1.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="234" />We just went through the new membership process at <a title="Irving Bible" href="http://www.irvingbible.org" target="_blank">our new church</a>.  A slightly different process than others I have been a part of.  It was less informational and more experiential.  The idea was to make church membership feel more personal by sharing stories and testimonies.  For a big church I can see the benefit and they did allow for questions if you had any.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">My one complaint is that at no point did they clearly lay out the Gospel.  I wanted to hear, "This is what is necessary for you to believe for salvation."   But in both the Newcomer Gathering and the Membership class, this was never said.</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><img class="alignleft alignnone size-medium wp-image-441" style="float: left;" title="Crystal Pepsi" src="http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/crystalpepsi1.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="234" />We just went through the new membership process at <a title="Irving Bible" href="http://www.irvingbible.org" target="_blank">our new church</a>.  A slightly different process than others I have been a part of.  It was less informational and more experiential.  The idea was to make church membership feel more personal by sharing stories and testimonies.  For a big church I can see the benefit and they did allow for questions if you had any.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">My one complaint is that at no point did they clearly lay out the Gospel.  I wanted to hear, &#8220;This is what is necessary for you to believe for salvation.&#8221;   But in both the Newcomer Gathering and the Membership class, this was never said.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In the Membership class you are broken into small groups with an elder in each and you share your testimony.  One of the couples in our class was a little vague in their conversion experience, dropping questionable lines like &#8220;I&#8217;ve always believed in Jesus.&#8221;  It is very possible that the elders or someone is responsible for following up on this or perhaps it is covered in the baptism class (the couple requested to be baptized).  I think there are going to be a lot of instances that are missed and by laying out the gospel clearly (clear like crystal pepsi&#8230;funny title right?)  they could set that straight with everyone right then.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">They do give you <a title="Irving Bible's Purpose, Dreams &amp; Beliefs" href="http://www.irvingbible.org/fileadmin/ibc/ministries/community_life/IBCinfo.pdf" target="_blank">a booklet that lays out the beliefs of the church</a>, but how many are going to read through it?  When I was in youth ministry we got a new group of 7th grade kids every year.  The first month of small group was all about what is the Gospel.  I usually took <cite class="bibleref" title="1 Corinthians 15:3-11" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onMouseOver="domTip_toolText('bref2257836878', '&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Last of all, as to one untimely born, he appeared also to me. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v46015011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '1 Corinthians 15:3-11', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+15%3A3-11');" onMouseOut="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+Corinthians+15%3A3-11" >1 Corinthians 15:3-11</a> and said this is what you believe to be a Christian.  I think this is important with all of the differing theologies and backgrounds out there that we at the least present the basics and make sure our members are getting those right.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Jennifer, who is in charge of new membership, emailed me to let me know that more than likely the elder would be following up with someone whose testimony seemed unclear.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: left;"><p>The elders are very careful on ensuring that those seeking membership understand the gospel and are truly Christians.  We have had folks who were denied membership as well as baptism because they didn’t understand, at which point the elder would share the gospel with them as well as make sure they knew about Alpha (an informational class about Christianity).</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">I&#8217;m still convinced sharing it upfront with the group is probably best, but people can zone that out easier than making up a doctrinally-sound testimony I guess.</p>
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		<title>Welcome to the Mos Eisley Cantina</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Rives</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="355" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="wmode" value="transparent" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/f_J5rBxeTIk&#38;hl=en" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="355" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/f_J5rBxeTIk&#38;hl=en" wmode="transparent" align="right"></embed></object>So the Vatican's chief astronomer recently said that <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens" target="_blank">belief in aliens does not contradict faith in God</a>.  This is a hilarious discussion.  One time Mindy and I got into a big argument because she wouldn't admit that it is more likely than not that there are aliens.  Yes, we actually had this discussion.  I think that logically with the size of the universe and the huge number of other planets, you have to say that there is a greater probability that there is life elsewhere than not.  I am not saying that there are in fact aliens, but just that the probability of there being other life is greater than the probability of no other life.

I think this is an obvious statement, but we can look at the math.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><code><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="355" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0" align="right">
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I think this is an obvious statement, but we can look at the math.  Our star, affectionately known as the Sun, has eight planets orbiting it (RIP Pluto).  Only one of these eight planets has life.  According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star#Distribution" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a>, our star is one of 300 billion stars in the Milky Way.  Since not all stars will have planets, we&#8217;ll play it safe and estimate each star has only one planet orbiting it.  Many stars have no planets orbiting them, such as our neighbor Proxima Centauri.  However there are at least 270 planets outside of our solar systems that we know of, so surely some stars have multiple planets like ours.  So with our safe estimate of one planet per star, that means there would be 300 billion planets in the Milky Way alone.  In the observable universe there are over 100 billion galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars.  The current estimate for the number of stars in the galaxy is 70 sextillion or 7 followed by 22 zeros.  So assuming there is only one planet per star, that means 70 sextillion planets.  What are the odds that only one of 70 sextillion planets contains life?</p>
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<p>If there were life on another planet, how is their approach to God different?  Does Christ&#8217;s death cover their sins as well?  Were they even subjected to the Fall or did they get it right the first time?  Does the Bible apply to them or has God revealed different things to them?  Perhaps Christ died for their sins on their planet long before (or after) He did here?</p>
<p>Of course this conversation can in the end come to no conclusion.  You will notice I didn&#8217;t quote any verses and my stats came from Wikipedia.  Many people will (probably wisely) just ignore this discussion all together for these reasons and the most surprising thing they learned was that the Vatican has a chief astronomer.</p>
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